Drop 'Em Event: Double Trouble 12/1/12-12/10/12

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How to spot the real Saizo:
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After much observation and testing, this is what we came up with: And this information is 100% true:

*For common, rare and epic patterns - When the foe with the bag appears on the bottom right corner towards the end or if the bomb drops down in left bottom corner towards the end, that means ANY Saizo is the real Saizo. You can pick any Saizo you want and you will get bullseye no matter what. (Thanks to Besthippo & Chavarlison)

*For epic pattern ONLY - When you see a bomb fly across the screen VERY quickly or disappear quickly, that means ANY Saizo is the real Saizo. You can pick any Saizo you want and you will get bullseye no matter what. (Thanks to Pierre See & thedevron)

*For epic pattern ONLY - When this pattern comes up in the beginning:

OXO
XXX
OXX

That means any Saizo is the real Saizo too! But that pattern is VERY rare. (Thanks to rahkimx215)

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Tips on Trading Primers:
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Different clans (that you picked initially) accumulate different primers at a different speed. I won't go into detail for common primers because they are easy to obtain.

For Rare Primers:
***Raven clan: Gets Red Rare Primers the most. Gets Purple Rare Primers the least.
***Tigra clan: Gets Purple Rare Primers the most. Gets Brown Rare Primers the least.
***Tiburon clan: Gets Brown Rare Primers the most. Gets Red Primers the least.
Green Rare Primers are hard for all clans but seems Tiburon clan gets them relatively faster than other clans. (I play all 3 clans)

For Epic Primers: All clans get Purple and Green Primers relatively fast. But the Tiburon clan finished Purple & Green fastest.
***Raven clan: Gets Gold Primers the most. Gets Black Primers the least.
***Tigra clan: Gets Silver Primers the most. Gets Gold Primers the least.
***Tiburon clan: Gets Black Primers the most. Gets Silver Primers the least.

You will benefit the most by trading with players that are different clan than you are.

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Drop 'Em Event: Double Trouble

---rahkimx215

I am done common and done with red rares but out of karma & everything for now!
Also, what a weird looking suit! >.<

---rahkimx215

Getting the wikia up as well.
Wish I wasn't always at work for the start of these things.

common & rare primer locations same as last drop em...check wikia..got photo

got it! thanks pierre! but i cant post links at the moment...need admin to do it. >.<

ninjaroyale.wikia.com/wiki/Double_Trouble

That's what you're looking for

For common primers I think top left top right & bottom left first. Then then both right double bottom followed but mid left bot left then mid right & top middle. Once you get the sequence down you should be good because the common one stays the same but for rare ones it might mix up the bomb with the sack but otherwise its almost the same as the first. I got 12 friends open and I'd rather be helping out the forum then random adds so add me scyth85.

Here, from the wikia.
Saizo Shadow Clone pattern 1 - Common Primers
*First set: All tap
::::::::::::::: Top Left, Top Right, Bottom Left
*Second set: All tap
::::::::::::::: Top Left, Bottom Left, Bottom Center
*Third set: Tap 1, Slash 1
::::::::::::::: Slash Bottom Left, Tap Center Center
*Fourth set: Tap 1, Slash 1
::::::::::::::: Slash Center Center, Tap Top Center, Tap Top Left

Saizo Shadow Clone pattern 2 - Rare Primers
*First set: all tap
:: Top Left, Top Right, Bottom Left
*Second set: all tap
:: Top Right, Bottom Right, Bottom Center
*Third set:
::Slash Bottom Left, Tap Middle Left-Center
*Fourth set:
::Slash Center Center-Right (careful a bomb is close to it), Tap Bottom-Top Center (It slides up)

Saizo Shadow Clone pattern 3 - Rare Primers
*First set: all tap
:: Top Left, Bottom Right, Bottom Left
*Second set: all tap
:: Top Right, Bottom Left, Bottom Center
*Third set:
::Slash Bottom Left
*Fourth set:
::Tap Top Right, Rap Top Center, Slash Center Center (bomb over it, alt slash Top Center)

So it's the same pattern as the last drop em event so that's good. Had trouble when I got up to epics (no cookies & karma left) but I like this more then last one by far, I'm actually hitting the real saizo pretty often. Like 2-4 times per level average. I just never pick the same one & hit ones I haven't hit yet. I tried hitting the same one for an entire level and didn't get the treasure once. Hit all five and if you don't get him hot again in a different order. It's crazy I'm almost maxed on my raptor gear O_o

Really? What clan did you start as? I guess I'll give that a shot instead of my usual (pick one and stick to it, lol)

Here's a tip on spoting Saizo. Any notice that at the third pattern some the foe with the bag is on the bottom right when that happens REAL SAIZO is located on the bottom left for Common and Rare primer, and Bottom Right for Epic. 100% tested.

Besthippo wrote:Here's a tip on spoting Saizo. Any notice that at the third pattern some the foe with the bag is on the bottom right when that happens REAL SAIZO is located on the bottom left for Common and Rare primer, and Bottom Right for Epic. 100% tested.

What? The third pattern, so you mean:
Saizo Shadow Clone pattern 1 - Common Primers
*Third set: Tap 1, Slash 1
::::::::::::::: Slash Bottom Left, Tap Center Center

Saizo Shadow Clone pattern 2 - Rare Primers
*Third set:
::Slash Bottom Left, Tap Middle Left-Center

Saizo Shadow Clone pattern 3 - Rare Primers
*Third set:
::Slash Bottom Left

So if for some reason the Saizo with the bag is in the bottom right instead of the bottom left, we follow your advice and get the real saizo?

YES that's Right 100%. So look out for change of pattern will score you the rare drops.

Besthippo wrote:Here's a tip on spoting Saizo. Any notice that at the third pattern some the foe with the bag is on the bottom right when that happens REAL SAIZO is located on the bottom left for Common and Rare primer, and Bottom Right for Epic. 100% tested.

Interesting! Thanks for sharing! I always go for bottom left Saizo and stick to that one because I always seem to have luck with that one. I've even gotten it 3 times in a row a few times.

Gonna have to confirm besthippos tip, every time it changes, he was right on the money, it's the bottom left for commons and rares. I am gonna look out for it when I get to the epics. Thanks buddy! I guess they did this for when you have not gotten it right for quite awhile already?
This is the reason why I made this forum, if left on the comments page this tip will get buried forever with only a few people knowing about it.

Here something I have been formulating in my mind. You know the primers that will be rare for you? Don't read them, just find someone who will have it in abundance and just trade for it. Live on it until you master it then trade them to someone like you who has trouble with it. Doing this you will have trouble at first but it ensures the most people will finish the primers. Is this viable?

Besthippo wrote:Here's a tip on spoting Saizo. Any notice that at the third pattern some the foe with the bag is on the bottom right when that happens REAL SAIZO is located on the bottom left for Common and Rare primer, and Bottom Right for Epic. 100% tested.

Wow. This really worked. 2 TIMES on rare pattern when the foe with bag appeared bottom right. Even though I aways go for bottom left out of habit, after reading what you wrote, I observed carefully where the foe with bag appeared. Yes this really works! Also tested by me Thank you!
---rahkimx215

Chavarlison wrote:Here something I have been formulating in my mind. You know the primers that will be rare for you? Don't read them, just find someone who will have it in abundance and just trade for it. Live on it until you master it then trade them to someone like you who has trouble with it. Doing this you will have trouble at first but it ensures the most people will finish the primers. Is this viable?

That is exactly what I have been doing. I don't read brown or purple that I accumulated myself because I get them eventually from friends. I am with crow clan (clan you pick initially) for rares, I get red the most. Tiger clan gets purple rare the most, and Shark clan gets brown rare the most. Purple rare is hardest for my clan. Tiger has trouble with brown rares. Shark clan has trouble with red rares. I always like to trade with players that are different clan than I am. It really works out the best.

Sarah Kim wrote:

Chavarlison wrote:Here something I have been formulating in my mind. You know the primers that will be rare for you? Don't read them, just find someone who will have it in abundance and just trade for it. Live on it until you master it then trade them to someone like you who has trouble with it. Doing this you will have trouble at first but it ensures the most people will finish the primers. Is this viable?

That is exactly what I have been doing. I don't read brown or purple that I accumulated myself because I get them eventually from friends. I am with crow clan (clan you pick initially) for rares, I get red the most. Tiger clan gets purple rare the most, and Shark clan gets brown rare the most. Purple rare is hardest for my clan. Tiger has trouble with brown rares. Shark clan has trouble with red rares. I always like to trade with players that are different clan than I am. It really works out the best.

Saving primers for future trades or points for the team battle is a viable option. However, I think there is a cap of 99 primers you can have at one time. So just make sure you have enough space for primers whenever you go on a run or else those primers you get will go to waste. It happened with me several times during the last dropem with purple (Tigra clan).

On the other hand, you should consider that once you finish the epic primers, you start getting a lot of the formerly uncommon primers that you can then hand out.

tidepoolhoppi wrote:

Sarah Kim wrote:

Chavarlison wrote:Here something I have been formulating in my mind. You know the primers that will be rare for you? Don't read them, just find someone who will have it in abundance and just trade for it. Live on it until you master it then trade them to someone like you who has trouble with it. Doing this you will have trouble at first but it ensures the most people will finish the primers. Is this viable?

That is exactly what I have been doing. I don't read brown or purple that I accumulated myself because I get them eventually from friends. I am with crow clan (clan you pick initially) for rares, I get red the most. Tiger clan gets purple rare the most, and Shark clan gets brown rare the most. Purple rare is hardest for my clan. Tiger has trouble with brown rares. Shark clan has trouble with red rares. I always like to trade with players that are different clan than I am. It really works out the best.

Saving primers for future trades or points for the team battle is a viable option. However, I think there is a cap of 99 primers you can have at one time. So just make sure you have enough space for primers whenever you go on a run or else those primers you get will go to waste. It happened with me several times during the last dropem with purple (Tigra clan).

On the other hand, you should consider that once you finish the epic primers, you start getting a lot of the formerly uncommon primers that you can then hand out.

99 is cap for primers. If you accumulate more, it turns into points automatically.
I read red rares intantly soon as i get them because its easiest for my clan and so i can trade with different clan players. After a few saizo missions, my friends already have sent me enough brown rares to memorize, so I dont need to read my own lol. Purples on the other hand is the hardest and the amount I get is so little that I dont bother reading mine and rely on friends. So there is no chance for me to even cap 99.
Oh and I believe green rares are hard for all clans.

I dont bother saving epics and I read them all because afer its finished the amount is so much more that Id rather finish early as possible.

Another confirmation for the bottom left corner when the slash bag moves to the right. I normally go for the bottom right corner and have had some success with that. Any other tips for spotting?

Need some help with the Green, Blue, and Purple Rare Primers. I get a lot of Brown if anyone needs those.

thedeveron wrote:Another confirmation for the bottom left corner when the slash bag moves to the right. I normally go for the bottom right corner and have had some success with that. Any other tips for spotting?

Need some help with the Green, Blue, and Purple Rare Primers. I get a lot of Brown if anyone needs those.

I tried the bag on the right method and hit the bottom left saizo and nailed it. I was wondering if there was anymore confirmed saizo locations. Sure the bag ones good because its really noticeable, but what about bomb patterns? They don't always drift the same way so I was thinking if we could figure out all the bomb paths & see if saizo's location isn't random at all we could beat the system.

On a side note I'm tiger clan & purple is my forte. If anyone needs them let me know all I'm getting are purples from my friends list so its making it hard to finish rare primer set (halfway on all except brown) I'll be clearing up my friends list tonight so add me and send a message saying from the forum or something along that line. Same as my forum name scyth85. I'll do a full karma run tomorrow afternoon after work

I've brought this up a few times on the wikia, but its never taken off. One guys is even arguing with me against it =D. My problem is for most of the data I've got about bomb placements, they're only half accurate because of fog. If you can't fully see how the bombs enter/leave you can't be sure which pattern you're in. Also when I tried documenting this I didn't get many real saizo's for confirmation .

Cordio7 wrote:I've brought this up a few times on the wikia, but its never taken off. One guys is even arguing with me against it =D. My problem is for most of the data I've got about bomb placements, they're only half accurate because of fog. If you can't fully see how the bombs enter/leave you can't be sure which pattern you're in. Also when I tried documenting this I didn't get many real saizo's for confirmation .

Common primers saizo spot! I just got saizo 3 times in the middle after the last bomb would go left. I'll post up later if its consistent.

Scyth85 wrote:Common primers saizo spot! I just got saizo 3 times in the middle after the last bomb would go left. I'll post up later if its consistent.

Confirming this

Scyth85 wrote:Common primers saizo spot! I just got saizo 3 times in the middle after the last bomb would go left. I'll post up later if its consistent.

Can you be more specific where the bomb goes from where? I'm trying to organize these tips on the first page. Thanks! I haven't confirmed it myself yet waiting for energy to replenish.